Is it wise to start your career as an entrepreneur, or should you choose a more predictable path? Our CEO Travis Penfield shares his personal story of embracing entrepreneurship at a young age.
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ABOUT THE GUEST
Travis Penfield
Travis Penfield is the Founder and CEO of 49 Financial. Travis graduated Magna Cum Laude from Texas A&M University in 2011 with a degree in Finance from Mays Business School. In October of 2019, Travis left his career as an executive vice president at a financial planning firm and started his own independent financial planning firm, 49 Financial. 49 Financial is headquartered in Austin, Texas with offices in Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, NW Arkansas, Charlotte, Los Angeles, and Charlotte. Travis lives in Austin with his wife Jaclyn, their daughters Charlotte, Olivia, and Madison, and their golden doodle Duncan. In his spare time you can find Travis hanging with his girls, playing golf, catching a Peloton ride, or enjoying wine and good food.
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Katie Wussow:
Welcome to this episode of Launch Your Life. A personal and professional development podcast for twenty-somethings by 49 Financial. I’m your host, Katie Wussow, and I’m the Director of Learning and Development here at 49. And this is the first episode in a series called Landing Your First Professional Job, where we are sharing stories, wisdom, and practical skills designed to help you get your very first job after college. And today we’re diving into an important question – “is it really wise to start your career as an entrepreneur?” Joining us for this conversation is our very own CEO, Travis Penfield and he’s going to dive into his personal story of embracing entrepreneurship at a young age. He’s going to talk about why he chose to trade a lucrative career in consulting for the uncertainty of entrepreneurship. He’s going to talk really openly about the struggle it was early on in his career as a financial advisor. And finally, he’s going to talk about the pivotal moment that changed everything. Let’s dive in.
KW:
Welcome everyone to the very first episode of the Launch Your Life podcast! We are so thrilled that you’re here and there is absolutely no better guest to get us started with this project than our CEO and Founder of 49 Financial, Travis Penfield. Travis, how are you doing today?
Travis Penfield:
Oh, I’m doing great. Excited for this, been excited for this.
KW:
Amazing. We are really eager to hear from you on the topic of entrepreneurship and specifically choosing to be an entrepreneur at a young age. But before we get too deep into that, I’m wondering if you can tell our listeners a little bit more about our heart behind launching this podcast in the first place. So, why have we made it such a priority at 49 to invest in the next generation?
TP:
Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, it’s funny people ask all the time and I’m sure we’ll get into it in this podcast like did you have this vision that it was going to be this way this year and this and that? And it’s like no, not at all. Like, it’s just kind of grown and taken on almost a mind of its own which has been so special. But I thought it was always odd and I think my life and my development was, you know, I go from elementary school to middle school. I go from middle school to high school, then I go from high school, and for me because I went somewhere that was K through 12, I kind of knew all the same people. All the sudden, it was this big moment of who am I? You almost get like another chance at refining yourself. I mean, we’ve all gone to college, right? You know, and it’s like, you get that opportunity. And I think that was such a big moment for me to just try to figure out who I was. And what I started to learn while I was in college was the decisions and the people that someone met in their first six to 12 months at college, so their freshman year, dictated the rest of their decision making. I mean, I am telling you, the people that got caught up in like a party scene and you know, went down that path way early, you saw where it took them. People that like were overly involved in these types of things, you know, and you could kind of start to see in the very beginning what would happen, and I think we knew that, so I get close to graduating college and where I spent the bulk of my last year in college was trying to actually mentor those freshmen to give them like a hey, you can actually like have this amazing experience and be really accomplished and these things. Then I go into the real world, get my first job, and I didn’t have really a pleasant experience if I’m honest. Like I did not share the values with all the people I worked with, which hey, you know, that’s a hard thing. But I just found myself not only lonely, but just like, I wish someone would have prepared me for what arguably is the next 40 years. I don’t have like another chapter like I’ve had in graduations up until this point in my life. And I just got so sad that I didn’t feel not only was I not prepared, but the people that I was around it felt like that time again in college, like the people I was seeing I was going to become 20 years later. And I wanted to make sure that whatever I did entrepreneurially had some type of spin to we’re going to be there for people when they’re getting into that next big phase of their life right? Adulthood, professionalism, starting in your career, that stage and we’re going to show them all the things we wish someone would have told us so they can be prepared, and they could do well. And they can see and be wise and not be swayed and tossed about because they’ve been educated on where to go. And so, I think that’s really the passion and that’s in some ways turned into 49 Financial.
KW:
Yeah, I definitely sense that heart in you and so many of my colleagues here at 49. And I’m really curious about your first job and that experience. But I want to ask you something else first, which is did you always know you wanted to be an entrepreneur? You have these entrepreneurs that you follow and some of them, you kind of sense that they always knew that was their path, but I’m curious if you always knew it was your path.
TP:
Yeah, I definitely sense that heart in you and so many of my colleagues here at 49. And I’m really curious about your first job and that experience. But I want to ask you something else first, which is did you always know you wanted to be an entrepreneur? You have these entrepreneurs that you follow and some of them, you kind of sense that they always knew that was their path, but I’m curious if you always knew it was your path.
KW:
Yeah, I wish that we had some more evidence of your previous endeavors but the lawn mowing business, if there’s a photo somewhere I’d love to see that.
TP:
Oh, geez. Oh, geez.
KW:
But can you tell us a little bit, you talked about your first job how it really wasn’t what you thought it was going to be. Take us back to Travis Penfield in his first job and that transition between that environment and going into financial advising.
TP:
Well, first of all, I had to do my hair every morning. So that was a really big change from what I currently experience in my life today. But I remember so vividly having this honeymoon experience when I started my first job, my first real corporate job, where it’s the first week and I’m like, wait a second. Like we just got our laptops and people kind of told us a few things and then we hung out with each other, and we got paid. Like we actually made a paycheck for that. And I was like this is gotta be the best life ever, you know, amazing. And then you know, you get maybe six months into it. And I think what you start to realize is, wait a second, so like, if I don’t have that much to do or if I have too much to do, or whatever it may be like this is it. It’s like this moment that I don’t think a lot of young people talk about which is that “this is it” moment where you’re like, oh, this is what work is for the rest of my life. And doing well at it is what I hope to do. But these are the people that I’m going to talk with more than my family just in sheer hours of time spent. And I think it starts to rock you a little bit because you start to question if building that spreadsheet is really the purpose you thought all of these years of school and this that and the other achievement has led to building spreadsheets. You know, or getting in and out of meetings and you’re just not mature. enough yet to know. And it’s just so shocking that that is actually in some cases what work is defined as that you spend, you know, more than half your life doing.
KW:
Yeah, what was your first job?
TP:
I worked in a consulting firm, Deloitte. And funny enough, I still don’t know how I got it. They hired me on as a business technology analyst, which if you know anything about me, technology in any title that I’m given is hilarious. What a bad hire I was. But yeah, it was very much on the road all the time. And I think Deloitte by the way, is an awesome institution, I think that to this day. But I think what I didn’t know is you probably should think about who you are as a person, instead of taking a job, in my case, that gives you the biggest signing bonus so you can marry your high school sweetheart. So that’s kind of how I made my job decision. So not the most wisdom and I didn’t think about it that much like I should have.
KW:
Yeah, well I’ve been in those you know, I majored in business in undergrad and went through that recruiting process as well and those larger companies that hire a bunch of young people, they have a really strong offer to present to recruiters and so it makes total sense to me that you would want to start your career there. So, as you are a business technology analyst at Deloitte, what are the specific things about that environment that weren’t a good fit for you?
TP:
Yeah, I mean, I think a couple of things. So, when I looked out ahead at the people that had gotten to the biggest status, so in the consulting world, it’s usually senior manager or partner or whatever it may be. I looked at their lifestyle, and this is not to condemn or put down their lifestyle, I just looked at it and said, I don’t at all want to be that when my kids are a certain age. I don’t at all want that travel. I don’t at all want this, this, and this, and I can kind of list it all. And again, that’s just my own personal values. They weren’t doing anything wrong. But I think first of all, I looked ahead and I think that would be something I’d tell the people listening is boy, if you can just look ahead and see people 5-10, even 15 years ahead of what you’re starting in, then like if you don’t want to become that and whatever their lifestyle is like how much they work, how much they travel, who are you to be arrogant enough to believe you’re going to be any different? You probably won’t be. No matter what you think about yourself at 22, you probably won’t be. So, I think that was probably the biggest one, but other little things were, I just didn’t like what I was doing. I didn’t research enough of what I would do day to day and like I was joking about technology, but literally I was in technology as a guy that’s terrible at technology. And you almost hear that you’re like, are you dumb? Maybe. But I think no one know like we’re 22 we don’t ask any questions. We just can’t believe someone wants to give us that level of paycheck. It feels amazing. And I think that I really wish that I would have actually said what is the work? What is the purpose of our work? And what good is coming from me spending 50 or 60 hours a week doing this? I never asked any of those questions. And I had to find them out along the way. And I think they’re doing great work at Deloitte but for me, it didn’t match with what I wanted to spend my time doing.
KW:
Yeah, I think those three questions are incredibly clarifying. And the good news about being in the early part of your career is that it’s not so complicated to make the pivot. So, tell us about learning about the world of financial advising and that decision process of making that transition.
TP:
Yeah, so I’m in a hotel room in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Super lonely. And as every good millennial does, I call my parents to talk about it. So, I call my folks and I’m like, hey, guys, super lonely here and I have a question – is this it? And they go, what do you mean is this it? And I said, is this life? I’ve done this for a year now so like this is the next 40 years. And they’re like well kind of, tell me more. And as I told them more, they said, Travis, I don’t know how to say it, but you’re just in the wrong spot. Like you should be doing things that are things that you’re passionate about, that you like to do, that create the purpose you want to create, all those things. So, hearing that from my folks really gave me the inspiration to start looking. So, I started to talk to everyone under the sun. If there’s anything in your 20s you should do is be able to have as many conversations with as many people as possible and frankly choose a job that forces you to. The more you expand that network in your 20s, the more your 30s, it just gets a lot easier, frankly. And so, I started talking to all these people. And one thing led to another I meet a guy in Austin, Texas, and I remember leaving his interview thinking he’s talking about financial services, which I had no experience in. I mean, I learned some things from Deloitte in that space, but no real experience in the retail side. He starts talking about what could happen. He starts talking about he and his wife’s fitness company and how he could teach me the ropes of finance and maybe I can start to build a financial company on the same platform. He says all these things, and I go home and my wife says so what did you think of that interview? I said I could be selling snow cones for all I care. I got to be under that guy’s leadership. Like that’s the guy want to follow. And I think to pause the story for a second, I wish that was something people talked about more is in your 20s, it may be more about following the people you want to be like more than it is about knowing exactly what you want to do because you’re not wise enough yet. I think that’s something I wish someone would have told me and thank God it worked out the way it did for me. But I think that’s a better route to take because you just don’t know what you don’t know when you’re that young. But anyway, so I start with him. This would have been November of 2012. And, I came into the industry and as he was training me, it wasn’t a really great start. I’ll never forget, like my first week I get there and it’s literally my first day and the receptionist says “Hey, sit here and the seat may be warm.” And I said, “what do you mean?” She said, “People are coming in and out of this thing all the time” and I’m like, “oh, man, what did I do?” So, I go to Jeff’s office, my mentor and I’m like, “buddy, what did you get me into?” Like I left a really good job, pay, all these things like, this is not good. I think what I took away from him was listen, that’s the industry, right? The industry has a lot of turnovers. And while I’m kind of on my way out of the industry, I can just tell you, that doesn’t mean you can’t do it. And so, I started the journey of his mentorship and the building of 49 and all the things I’m sure we’ll get to, came after that.
KW:
So you went from the very cushy, good benefits package, solid salary, very predictable, very safe option to being an advisor, which I assume was a variable compensation scenario where you are compensated based on the work that you produce or the business that you produce. And there’s a lot of uncertainty and there’s a lot of just building your own practice. What fears did you have about that?
TP:
I mean, I was living in my fears every day. I think you said it really well – we all want to do something great with our lives. But to do something great, we have to be literally in a lot of fearful, anxiety producing situations on a daily, hourly basis. And I did not have that when I was at Deloitte, it was just fine. I got a paycheck, and I did things, and it was fine. But I’ll never forget so I start, and we had some medical bills and some things Jacqueline, and I had to figure out at that time, so I get off of that benefits package. And then I’m told well you don’t get on a benefits package unless you do enough production in this industry. I’m like, ah shoot, so what’s that going to be? So, I remember calling Deloitte and they talked about this cobra thing to continue my health insurance. And I remember that Cobra thing being some four or five grand a month to continue. If I didn’t keep paying that, the bills for the health stuff we were going through were way higher. So now all of a sudden, I get that and then I get a letter in the mail one month later, and Deloitte is like hey, just so you know that big signing bonus, you actually signed a thing that said if you don’t stay two years, you have to pay it back. And I was like, No way I did? Because again classic 22-year-old millennial I’m like, Sweet a job offer! Sign it. What an idiot. So, then they’re asking me for money. So, I get into my first 30 days in this career outside of just the challenges of trying to grow a financial practice at 23 years old and you know what happened? I’m sitting there $10,000 in credit card debt, trying to tell people to trust me with their financial planning. You know how hypocritical that is? And so, I was just living in an anxiety bubble. And I would call people and try to build my book of business and there wasn’t a ton of training back then. And just getting no after no after no after no. And I remember, true story, it’s around Christmas of 2012. I call my dad and said, Dad, I know you said you’re not going to do business with me and that’s fine. That’s fine. I know you love me, but you’re not gonna do business with me. I need you to roll over this amount of money because they’re telling me if you do, I’ll at least get on the health benefits. And I remember my dad being like, so what’s the investment? I was like I’m gonna bring in my mentor to tell you all of that. But this is the amount I need you to give me and he’s like alright son but geez you sure you should be doing this? And he’s like, I don’t think you’re gonna make it and talk about pride hit. When everything you’ve done in your life, you’ve accomplished or you’ve been the captain, you get the job that everyone thinks is so cool out of college and all that, then you make this move to do something entrepreneurial, to follow a guy and you’re literally like, lower than you thought you could go and you’re like what have I done? 23 years of work to get here? It was really hard every day to keep believing.
KW:
Did you have a specific moment or tipping point where you started to believe like, Oh, I think this is actually going to work?
TP:
Totally. So. to keep where that story was, my dad becomes the client. And so now I’m in the beginning of 2013. And I’m up to who knows what credit card debt. And I mean what is going to happen here like how long can I last? Every day, no joke, I’d sit there with my mentor. He had this couch in his office, sometime in the afternoon I’d go up to that couch and I literally sit there, and he wouldn’t even turn around by the second month. Because he’s like, oh gosh, Travis is here. And finally, when he turned around, he said, Travis, are you here to quit? I said yeah, I’m here to quit again. And he’d say okay, so same as yesterday? Yeah. He’s like, what’s wrong today? I said, I called someone else. They said no to me, and I’m super sad. And he’s like, Dude, you’re going to have to figure it out. So, the turning point was, I came into his office one night and I’m an emotional guy. I mean, I cry at Sister Acts 2 so that tells you a lot about me. I’m sitting there and I’m like, Hey, dude, I’m really going to quit this time. He’s like, bro, you’re not going to quit. I said I am. I said, I’ve called all these people that I know, made a fool out of myself. You guys don’t train worth a crap here, I’m not going to make it. He said, Okay. Okay. Okay. He said, what if you call one more person, take any training that’s in your head, and you approach that phone call in the way that you think is the most authentic and see if you can get that person to set a meeting. Who knows if you can serve them and if they don’t set the meeting, fine. You’ve been complaining to me for months. I’m actually probably quite tired of you so go for it. So, I go and my hands shaking. it’s one of those you got to just click the green button to call them. So, I call one of my mother’s best friends. And the husband picks up and this husband he’d never had a clue. You know, he’s just, he doesn’t get finances. If you want to go to the lake and have the best time, ever go with him. If you’re going to talk about money, probably not going to work. So, I’m like, look listen, you’ve got to put your wife on, like I need to talk to her. He’s like, no, you can talk to me. So, for 30 minutes I’m trying to tell him I just want to meet and he’s like, I don’t need this, I don’t need that. And by the end, I said, I see you guys as a second family to me. Please just meet with me and he’s like, why didn’t you just say that? And I’m like, come on dude. And I said so your wife’s going to be there, right when we meet? And he’s like, Yeah, she’ll be there. He’s like, when can you meet? I’m like, well to be honest with you, my calendar is pretty wide open. I don’t have a lot going on, so you tell me. So, I drive to San Antonio the next day, I’m getting ready. And he calls and, in our world, when someone calls you 15 minutes before the meetings, what do you think that means? It’s a big cancel. And I’m just too scared. I’m already so sad of where my life has turned out, just what a failure I am. I’m not answering. So, I just drive up to the house. I’m walking up and I’m like, Travis, just listen. He leaves a voicemail, and the voicemail says hey, Travis, just want to make sure you know, we can’t wait to see you. As a reminder, we’re not going to do any business at all with you. And I’m like oh great. Ding Dong. So I come in, and at this point, this was my last meeting of my career. This was it for me. This is the last thing that I was ever going to do. So, I went in there without a care in the world and to this day gave the best Broadway performance a person can give in financial services. And they’re sitting there, the husband and wife and she looks at him and slaps him on the knee. And he’s like, what’s that for honey? And she goes, because you told me that he did mortgages and he’s like, yeah, finance is mortgages. And she said that is not at all what he does, do you do that Travis? And I say no. And she says, hang on, honey. So now she leaves me and him in the room and I’m just scowling because this could have been it. I hear papers wrestling, she comes in and she puts him down and she says, Honey, I love you. If there’s anyone that’s going to help me it’s going to be you. And so here you go. And it was investment statements, insurance statements, and she said she’d roll them all over to me. And that was a moment that I was like, wow, I think it’s going to work. But here’s the problem. We got them all rolled over and two days later, she called me. And I’m like oh no she’s going to pull it all back, this was my time to finally make it. She says Honey, I’m going to change your life. Call me back because of course I didn’t answer. I was too scared, I let it go to voicemail. And so, I call her back. I said, what’s going on? She said, Travis, I think I could change your life. One of the wealthiest people in San Antonio is someone I’m close to. I was so taken aback by your meeting the other day and I want to help you. And she says now, just know this, you’re not very good at your job. I just want to say it, you’re pretty poor at it. So, when we go, you talk golf and basketball. I talk finance and let’s see how this thing could work. And she said it could be tomorrow, are you sure you can make it? And I’m like, well, you and my dad are my only clients, so I got the time. So, we go to this Mexican food place, and I remember I must have had 500 chips. I’m so nervous. And she’d be like, and Travis likes golf. And I was like Yeah, yeah. And then that was all my talking part. And, and God love her. I mean, she did a great job. He ends up wanting to go through a process, we go through about a three-month process where I brought a mentor and, and gave unbelievable advice that saved him all this money in taxes, all these other things. And it ended up being one of the biggest cases in the company. I was with 106-year-old company, it was one of the biggest cases of that company’s history, and I think the largest of any one in their first year. And all the sudden I had a bank account that I had to check my app every five seconds after that happened. Nine months into the business, I almost quit, cried, all the things. All I needed was my mom’s best friend to do my job for me a little bit and now all of a sudden, I was in a place that I never dreamed financially I could be in at 24 years old. And I would say yeah, I was like yeah, I better not waste this moment. There’s something big that could come from this.
KW:
That’s quite a turnaround story. And I don’t think I’ve ever heard you tell it before, so I so appreciate you sharing so openly about those early days. Let’s be honest, like even if you are in a salaried, safe job, the early days of your career are hard. You’re just trying to figure out how to be a person, you’re trying to figure out how to manage stress, and how to navigate all these new situations that you never have navigated before and then add on top of that, you’re not necessarily getting a paycheck because you’re not necessarily producing any business. So, I’m wondering how do you think those early struggles helped you become the leader you are today because you still have challenges, and you still have struggles and you still have stress. So, how do you see that building you into the person that leads the company now?
TP:
Yeah, I tell any leader, just as an entrepreneur, to your point, you can be a salary job and be the best leader in a company. Absolutely. So, to any leader out there, I’m gonna tell you something you do not want to hear. Every one of the most excruciatingly painful hard times I’ve had in business and frankly in life, have actually been preparing me and opening up doors to leadership opportunities I could have ever gone through before. And I think that’s something we don’t want to hear. As I sit here today, I can’t even believe this, that I get the title CEO. You heard my story – how’s that even possible? Right? But if I look at the story, I’m like, I honestly feel like I have been served up the amount of challenges that most people could face in 30 years. I’ve been served them up in 10. And so I think the truth of entrepreneurship, the truth of leadership, is everyone has to go through the same levels of failures and pain. How quickly in a time period can you handle it because if you can do enough of that pain earlier and earlier and you can say I’m going to do three years of pain that most people do in 10 years, you will be seven years ahead of everyone. And it has nothing to do with the money you’re making. It has nothing to do with your maturity. It’s putting yourself in situations that you will fail, that you will feel like you doubt yourself because every moment that you don’t quit, every moment that you get over that hardship, there’s something no one can ever remove from you, which is a belief in self when you get in that position before that you’ve been there before to say hey, I’ve been here. I can get over this. And that’s a lesson that no one, no coach, no speech nor anything can do other than the school of hard knocks.
KW:
Yeah, and we’re talking about choosing to be an entrepreneur at a young age. And I think a lot of people would default to, maybe I want to be an entrepreneur or maybe I want to do something entrepreneurial, but when I have more experience, but I think what you’re showing us with your story is the benefit of just doing that at a young age and learning all of those lessons from the school of hard knocks, so that you can set yourself up for the rest of your career. What are some of the other benefits you think of choosing an entrepreneurial career path at a young age?
TP:
Here’s the problem that I don’t think we’re talking about it enough. When we’re 20 something years old, we look at the people that are 40 or 50 years old, and we say that’s the life I want. But rarely do we ask the question, how did they get there? What did they have to do to get that life? So, we’ve all got that friend’s dad or mom that we’re like, now that’s the job. They love their life. And no one ever asked him what do you do in your 20s? What would you do in your 30s for that to be your life? And no one wants to ask that because we as human beings have the most difficult time being able to actually get into that type of. I heard it said best when they were describing, I heard a sermon talking about the human mind and they were talking about why the notebook was so good. That why in reality, those of you that have seen it out there, right a chick flick, good cry fest, like they don’t focus on the hardships of their marriage. They focus on the lead up and the honeymoon and all the drama, and in the very end when it’s like oh my gosh, that’s the sweetest love in the world. But the world and America and all these places, we don’t focus on the bulk of our lives, which is just the normal which is going to work and trying your hardest. And I think that if we can start to understand that you will get that timeframe of the normal and you will start to pinch that down and down and down if you do entrepreneurial things at the beginning, because you actually then can control workwise what that even looks like and is defined by. Someone else doesn’t control that for you. And I think that we can then get to the spot where we’ve learned it all but we’ve now earned the benefits of kind of defining the different stages of life we have ahead both personally professionally, because you are in the right to do that.
KW:
Is there a type of person that you would say, you know what, I don’t necessarily think entrepreneurship is right for you?
TP:
Totally. I mean, I think with my generation especially like let’s go change the world. Let’s go change the world, I think sometimes is becoming almost synonymous with entrepreneurship. And I just don’t think that’s right. I don’t think that’s accurate. And I think that there I would guess a large bulk of people that shouldn’t be entrepreneurs. Now we’d have to define the word entrepreneur. Because like at 49, I would say our salary people are entrepreneurs. So, you know, that’s a debate for later. But if we do the most common definition of entrepreneurship, which is going to start in your own thing on your own, taking a chance on yourself, and it’s all out there for risk, you nothing to fall back on, and you go try.I think that the people that should not be doing that, are the people that when they look at that they don’t get the like, Oh, I’m anxious about it, but who knows, it could be something big like let’s see what happens. They get the that sounds horrible or I just genuinely think that sounds terrible, but good for you guys that like that. And I think follow your gut there. Don’t let someone convince you that you should be an entrepreneur when you’re not. Because I think that whether entrepreneurs get the fame and the glory any entrepreneur should say, the only reason why whatever it is that they’re on a mission on and doing is working is because of a team around them. They’re nothing without the team. And so, you don’t have to be that role to accomplish amazing things in life and to fulfill wild levels of purposes and vision.
KW:
Yeah, that’s good, because I do think entrepreneurship is one of those things that does tend to get glorified and when you glorify something there is that risk that you’re pulling people towards a path that maybe isn’t totally right for them. And you can make a huge impact in all kinds of ways, not necessarily just by starting your own thing.
TP:
That’s right.
KW:
So last question, what is one piece of advice you would go back and give young Travis in those early days in this particular career that you’ve chosen?
TP:
I just wish that I don’t even know if I would have believed it, but stop being so anxious about tomorrow, and about how it’s going to go. It’s doing nothing for you. It all ends up working out. And by the way, whatever your plans are that day and how you see it working out, it’s not going to work out at all that way. But it’s going to be better. It’s going to be sweeter; it’s going to be richer. It’s going to be something you could have never put on a white paper. You can never put on a vision board. But in those moments of hardship, in the moments of self-doubt, insecurity, all those types of things. like, just keep trying, and as long as you don’t quit, because that’s the only thing that will take you out of the game. Just try again tomorrow. And then try again the next day. And there will be light at the end of the tunnel. Just one foot in front of the other. Not more complex than that.
KW:
Amazing. Incredible advice, not just for young people turns out. So, I really appreciate all that you’ve shared on the episode today. I know that our listeners are going to really enjoy it and find it so valuable. That is all we have for you on this episode of Launch Your Life. If you enjoyed the episode, make sure to leave us a rating and review. It’s absolutely the best way to show your support and help other people find the show. Thank you so much for listening, and we’ll catch you next time!
